For the one you’re referring to as “The cookie”, aka Lorna Dune. Just seemed rude to me.

You will get no argument from me regarding Kurtzman and his production company. They shouldn’t be let within 50 miles of anything Star Trek related.

BTW… I recall Evil being on CBS back in 2019. Never watched it. Did it migrate to P+? I have a hard time finding anything on P+ I have an interest in watching. I think I’ve seen 3 other non-Trek things on it. 1 was absolute garbage. The other two were just “meh”.

The information that’s come out of Paramount indicates Prodigy did very well on the metrics, DVDs sold out immediately upon cancelation, buzz is solid, awards are solid. If the numbers were lousy, the second season would have been canceled before Paramount paid for the entire production of the second season. The clues point to a successful show.

That’s not how I’m seeing it. Just watch SNW. It has the essence and feel of Star Trek Discovery all over it.

Perhaps. But that won’t be for a while and in the meantime I still have good stuff without worry of not finding it or it getting changed on me.

Not if they’re trying to get another streamer to buy the rights, as they say they are.

Man, all these comments I see from people who never bothered with Prodigy because “I don’t have kids” and all that are enormously frustrating. Kids’ show or not, it’s honestly one of the better shows in the franchise, whether new or old (and in particular, with all due respect to the many talented and committed artists who lovingly toiled to make Picard, Prodigy is so much better than Picard). People who didn’t watch it missed out, IMO.

If you mean in the sense that the show is canceled, I guess. In any other sense (i.e., the quality of the show), I passionately disagree.

“ The bridge looked like something out of Star Wars but even LESS functional than a Star Destroyer. And of course a giant door that everytime you view someone sitting in the Captain’s chair you get a DOOR (why?!? WHY DOES NEW TREK LOVE PEOPLE SITTING IN FRONT OF DOORS?!?!?!).”

I don’t understand these complaints at all. First of all, the bridge looks less like something out of Star Wars than most other Trek shows’ hero ships’ bridges do. Everything’s shiny and gleaming in a way Star Wars production design is famous for not being. Have you even seen Star Wars?

Secondly, are you seriously upset there’s a door visible when someone is sitting down?? I just… I can’t even figure out what you think is so wrong. Did it bother you every time the turbolift door is visible behind Kirk on TOS? Does it bother you with all the other doors on other shows? If so, why? The fact it’s visible behind someone when the camera is in front of them in the captain’s chair on the bridge is domehow a problem? Why? What do you suggest, moving the door to the floor and having characters rise into the bridge from below on a little pedestal? Or should the door be moved out of frame by putting it overhead, in the ceiling, and have people enter the bridge by dropping and falling into it? Would they leave the bridge by jumping up into the hole in the ceiling? Or do you mean the bridge is supposed to be completely sealed, and people are supposed to enter and leave it only via the transporter??

I really, really do not get this apparent door phobia of yours, or why it should be an issue for just this one show in the canon when it’s (apparently) not for any of the others (or is it?!)…

“but have more respect!”

For whom?

Once they threw the ship 900 years into the future and had Spock suggest to Section 31 that having anyone in Starfleet just mentioning its existence was paramount to treason, they gave fans the odd idea they were trying to ignore the show both literally and figuratively. But apparently it’s presence is still felt everywhere in the franchise today. ;)

Read the damn Paramount Global annual report on form 10-K, not the press releases. The first risk factor contains disclosure that’s pretty damn close to what Jtrekker wrote above.

One does get the impression that much of Discovery is being airbrushed out of existence, much like a photo of Nikita Khrushchev in 1965.

If you had to sell an asset to raise cash, would you put something low rated up for sale, or something with a solid fan base that does well, with 20 never-before-seen episodes ready to air?

Hate to break it to you, but companies sell distressed assets all the time.

For the younger generation, this is just reality, and it won’t be long until media companies could care less if anyone can permanently own media.

FWIW, I am skeptical of this argument. So long as there’s money to be made from selling DVDs, or whatever medium replaces them, media companies will continue selling them. If people think that their favorite shows will disappear from streaming, as they’re wont to do, that’s all the more reason to buy permanent media.

This is exactly what happened in the 1980s through the early 2000s, after all. If your favorite show from a few years earlier disappeared from syndicated reruns, the only way to access it was by VCR or, later, DVD.

I actually really liked the sleek design of the Protostar bridge.

However, FWIW, I can see some reasons to avoid placing turbolifts directly behind the captain’s chair (if that’s what Protostar does; I can’t remember). The CO is less likely to be surprised by intruders, for example, if the turbolift is within her peripheral vision.

Kids these days do not care about learning. Kids these days are not interested in anything but games on their tablets.

That’s….quite the assertion, and judging from the high school students with whom I do alumni interviews for my undergrad alma mater, absolutely wrong.

Admittedly, those applicants already among the cream of the crop in their schools. Still, this assertion strikes me as but the latest iteration of Socrates complaining about “kids these days.” People complained about the silent generation and boomers reading comic books, then Gen X watching TV or playing arcade games; today, it’s Gen X and phones. Life goes on.

Incidentally, I don’t disagree that the rustic bug-eyed animation style of Lower Decks is more kid-oriented than the more contemporary style of Prodigy. I’ve read that child psychologists claim kids react to big eyes, which is why they’re so common on kid-oriented animated shows.

Aaah-ha-ha… the cookie! Took me a few seconds… but have more respect!

I have never remotely cared about where a door is placed on any of these shows, but everyone has their hang ups I guess.

Yeah I wish I had your willpower and I was generally excited about season 2. I didn’t love season 1 and frankly it was the worse season in the modern era for me but it wasn’t THAT awful either. And I remember Akiva Goldsman was saying season one had its issues because they didn’t know how the show would end before they started shooting it. But for season 2 he was practically bragging because of the pandemic they had tons more time to work on it and had finished everything before they started shooting. That actually convinced me even if it wasn’t a great season, it would be better.

I couldn’t have been more wrong.

I highly doubt LDS has less viewers. This show seems to have a strong following even if its not at the level of the live action shows. In fact, LDS and SNW were the two shows I wasn’t worried about at all when the belt tightening arguments started. And funny enough, those are currently the only two shows now standing although that can change on a dime as I been saying. So I’m not suggesting they are safe in the long term, just safe for now.

The anti-strike rhetoric is a weirdly common refrain in the comments of TrekMovie.com.

Disney is in serious financial strife themselves and are at risk of being acquired. Beside the US Government will not allow them to acquire any more companies after Marvel, Pixar, Lucasfilm and 20th Century. Netflix or Apple are contenders for Paramount.

Oh yeah I agree with nearly all of this. I was only saying it’s really hard to get a lot of new people invested in the long term as the Kelvin movies proved. But yeah those movies brought in tons of new people who never watched Star Trek before. I even had friends who never seen it actually go and watch that movie. Unfortunately it never went beyond that for them though, which is fine obviously. But someone else said it best that while the Kelvin movies did bring a lot of attention to new fans at the time but most of them just probably looked at it as another big CGI summer blockbuster movie and stopped thinking about it the minute after they saw it.

And because Paramount didn’t really strike as the iron was hot as you said, many just lost interest completely by the time the next movie rolled around. And practically nonexistent by the time Beyond showed up. It’s why these movies probably can’t get off the ground now as much as they been trying because they know it has lost any real new fans at this point and would mainly live or die by how many of us oldies went to see it. But that’s the Star Trek way!

And yeah, Prodigy just probably didn’t make the numbers they were hoping for given its cost. We don’t know obviously but that wouldn’t surprise me at all. I been very open I was worried this show could get cancelled. But the fact they are basically selling the show to someone else shows its obviously more than just a show not performing and that Paramount itself is just in dire straights.

We obviously don’t know what the future of Trek looks like right now but we know it will survive in SOME form regardless. And to be honest, it’s obviously not the only big franchise having growing pains these days as they ALL seem to be lol. D.C. is just a total mess on every level right now. It’s astonishing how much of a mess they have made that franchise and unlike Star Trek was making near billion dollar hits not that long ago. Now their latest movies have all made around what Beyond did and that’s NOT good. Marvel is in a better place but it still not the powerhouse it was a few years ago. Ant Man 3 essentially bombed and the new Secret Invasion show is currently the lowest viewed show so far out of all the MCU shows. And of course Disney+ and Max are also in financial tail spins cancelling and removing shows themselves, consolidating their content with other streaming sites like P+ and Showtime and even has commercial options now. They may not be doing as bad as P+ but they are obviously not doing amazing either.

If misery loves company there is a lot to love right now lol. All of these brands and services are having immense problems today. It’s going to be interesting how all this shakes out in a few years; but I wouldn’t be shocked if P+ wasn’t part of that future at all if they can’t make it a bigger site. We may have another UPN on our hands lol.

Who wants more money? What are you talking about?

Don’t kid yourself, Discovery was definitely cancelled. You don’t decide to film extra scenes to create an ending after you already wrapped filming if that wasn’t the case. You’re using that as a reason why it wasn’t cancelled but that proves it was lol. And we don’t know how much it cost to actually shoot. But it was cancelled. If that wasn’t the case they would’ve just announced fifth season as its final season and advertised it as such just like Picard season 3 did. And even then, that’s still being cancelled because unlike PIC, Discovery never had an end date.

But yes I agree, five years is a decent run for a streaming show. I made that point many times but few people seemed to believe that for some reason. Why I was convinced it was the first show to get cancelled.

That’s what I did for PIC S2. I didn’t watch it as it came out. I read the reviews and posts, and since it was universally despised, I just never watched it. I did like S1, although I thought Picard was a mere shadow of himself… but I’m glad I didn’t waste my time with S2.

“Why would you even need a starship if you can beam from one planet to another instead?”

I agree with a lot of your issues over STID but this argument always been the biggest pet peeve of mine and it’s been said over and over again. Starfleet’s main mission is to explore. You can’t use transporters to beam to planets you haven’t discovered yet. That’s why still need the starships.

And starships do much more than just transport or evacuate people. They are also huge science and research labs, diplomacy settings and defense when needed as well. You can’t use transporters to study a nebula or defend a planet against the Romulans or Borg.

Until we heard it was cancelled, I was actually considering not watching season 5 at all until after it was over to binge it. That’s how frustrated this show has made me. Now since it’s the last, I’m going to just watch it weekly.

And I would’ve considered that for PIC as well after the dumpster fire of season 2 if they didn’t bring back the TNG cast in season 3. I couldn’t even think to do that when they were announced. But I honestly really struggled with both of these shows last seasons I have never struggled with a show before.

If you had to sell an asset to raise cash, would you put something low rated up for sale, or something with a solid fan base that does well, with 20 never-before-seen episodes ready to air?

They jacked up the prices to when they included Showtime. Enjoy. I canceled my annual subscription. Whoever picks up Prodigy can have my money.

No one wants to talk about it for months.

How has Discovery ‘changed Trek forever’ when basically every show outside of it has ignored those changes? SNW is supposedly a spin off of it but has actually gone the complete opposite way in how it’s structured and even avoided all the changes to canon like the Klingons. With the exception of mentioning Burnham as Spock’s sister, there hasn’t been a single reference to any of the characters. I was hoping for a L’Rell reference in the Klingon episode and nothing.

The odd thing about DIS is that all the other shows haven’t even referenced it in any real way except SNW, the show you think sucks. But PIC, LDS or PRO has been nothing. It’s very odd to me in fact. Imagine DS9 and VOY never once referencing TNG? And all those shows were baked in to how TNG was originally done. Not the same with DIS outside of PIC and both being highly serialized but that’s just modern TV more than anything.

“With SNW, I do like what they were doing with the Balance of Terror episode.”

No, don’t get me wrong, I loved it! It’s my second favorite episode of the season and I watched it four times. I was just commenting on how ridiculous it is to complain that PRO supposedly had too much fan service stuff when as shown it has very little of it but then ignore how the crazy amount of fan service SNW has which is a revolving door of TOS characters and easter eggs.

And I do get the difference, SNW is made purely for old fans in mind where as PRO isn’t. But obviously the makers of PRO is aware of that too and exactly why they have kept all the backstory and easter eggs to a minimum. They provide just enough for old fans to catch a few inside things here and there, but none of it would impede you as a first time viewer.  

It’s why I don’t even bother talking to this guy anymore. It’s one brick wall after another.

And yeah, sometimes people seem to forget you can’t make stuff the same way from 50 years ago lol. You have to realize not everything can be done like before to attract new and YOUNGER audiences.

I do love this board obviously, but it’s a constant reminder that it’s a lot of older people here and some far too stuck in their ways.

Good luck with that.

Disco wasn’t canceled. It’s ending its run, expensive TV shows don’t last forever. 5 seasons is a good run. Also you don’t spend millions of dollars shooting new scenes for a show that was cancelled.

Mickey Mouse in a Starfleet uniform.

Did Alex write the show? I think your hate is showing. Not a good look.

Hopefully Disney or Netflix

I’ll keep it for Bevis and Butthead

They just gave me free Showtime since I was on the premium price plan. I did the year subscription so I don’t have to pay again until December.

The show never felt like a show kids would like. The writers goofed up, and yet they want more money.

Even Star Wars cartoons fail.

Yes. This is the answer.

Yeah, they took the whole original premise and tossed it out the window.

Should have been holo Quark

And yet they failed.

The first half was better.

Rage? Dude with Bitcoin going up, I’m very Zen right now. And Paramount Plus just gave me access to showtime for free. Zen is the way and I don’t have to renew my subscription until December.

Agreed, would love to see James Frain in that role. I think he did a fine job as Sarek and would probably bring the same performance to the role.

Oh, I do agree he is talented and has acting chops. And I completely agree that we need to give actors that are placed into existing roles to be able to make that role their own. For me, there were just some things that didn’t work. But I am okay with it. And I 100% agree with you that people are judging Paul Wesley to Shatner after just one episode – an episode where he is not the Kirk we know.

For the record, a lot of CBS content is on Paramount+. CBS has been the most watched network in the US for 15 years. Assuming that all the P+ content beyond Star Trek is “garbage” would essentially be stating that people who like CBS content just enjoy terrible TV. Even if you don’t like a lot of their content, since TV is a subjective medium, apparently you would be in the minority.

The numbers I find online are hard to quantify, but my point was really just an extrapolation based on the available information – Prodigy was removed from Paramount+ along with nine other original titles. The most name recognizable of those is “Grease: Rise of the Pink Ladies” and “Inside Amy Schumer”. From there, unless you are familiar with Paramount+, the rest of the titles probably don’t resonate with the vast majority of the general public (e.g. “From Cradle to Stage”, “Queen of the University”, “Tell Me a Story”, etc.). The point here is that if Prodigy was truly “very popular”, I would think it would be in a lot better company than what appears to be mostly no-name content. If that was the case, it would be more likely that they would be taking an ax to their streaming offerings instead of a scalpel.

I can’t prove that Prodigy had low viewership, but I don’t think I’m off-base to say that it had a very NICHE fan base. If you weren’t a Star Trek fan before Prodigy premiered or a kid who just thought the previews looked cool, I doubt many others were actively seeking the show. Not to mention that even a lot of hardcore Star Trek fans aren’t big on animation of any kind – especially something billed as a kids show.

To add insult to injury, an article that came out yesterday via Gamespot says that Nickelodeon DIDN’T take much of a hit on P+. So that part of my previous statement is not even true. In other words, Prodigy was the ONLY Nickelodeon show to be recently removed from P+. To me, that says a lot. If Prodigy was really hitting an audience, does it make sense to remove it?

For all intents and purposes – at least in the world of Paramount+ – it WAS cancelled. P+ isn’t paying for it. Heck, they aren’t even going to pay to finish the product that they helped finance for at least the last year! Same as the TV world. The analogy here would be a situation like “Scrubs”, “JAG”, or even more recently the show “911”. They were each cancelled by their respective original networks on TV, but the production company shopped it out to the remaining networks and successfully moved the show for additional seasons. Each show was still technically “cancelled” because the original network removed it from their lineup, but the show survived by having the broadcast rights purchased and essentially resurrecting it for more episodes. Same thing here.

Wouldn’t it be ironic if Disney+ bought the Star Trek franchise? I mean, imagine Matalas and Filoni working together…

Well said. If anything, P+ needs to recoup what they spent on Season 2 (even if it’s at a loss), so it will definitely find a home at another streamer, and eventually make its way to home video. Hopefully they don’t completely kill off the licensed merchandise – it’d be a shame not to get a second wave of action figures (no Rok-Tahk??? grr) and at least ONE ship model kit.

It’s Blockbuster not Walmart. You are just paying for temporary access to the content. If that weren’t the case, you wouldn’t pay a MONTHLY fee. You’re essentially renting the content. And believe me, if you were paying to keep it permanently, it would be A LOT MORE than $5 a month (soon to be $6).

As for being pushed to the streamers for content, I get it and agree, but they aren’t doing this for the generation of people 30+ years old. This is for the 20-somethings and under who are being programmed to believe that almost anything media is temporary. Hard drives and memory cards fail, content can disappear the moment you trade in a cell phone, and even that awesome video posted on Vine that had a million views is long gone. For the younger generation, this is just reality, and it won’t be long until media companies could care less if anyone can permanently own media.

Heh.

Plausible and probable. More and more, my ignorance is reflected back at me.

Agreed. That actor took the benediction that Mark Lenard made heartbreaking, “In a different reality, I could have called you friend,” and turned it into an offhand, ironic remark. It might have been interesting, and fitting, to see what James Frain could have done with the role.

FWIW, I know that actor (Matthew Macfazdean) and he’s very, very talented – we did Fringe festivals back in the 90s and I thought he was great then, he’s only gotten better.

I think he did a tremendous job with the role, knowing he’d be compared to Mark Lenard. I mean, look at how much criticism was laid on Chris Pine and now Paul Wesley for their sole sins of not being William Shatner.

Been buying ad free for a bit now. I do watch other stuff on the service, but if Paramount peddles Trek to another service, then I’ll be canceling it.

I did indeed insult a bunch of people. All the ones who are going yippee, now Legacy is going to get made……ignoring that these decisions are being made to keep Paramount Global afloat. PG didn’t lay off twenty five percent of their staff so they could make more Star Trek.
Gonna mangle Jeff Foxworthy here…..if you think Prodigy was canceled so P+ could make Legacy, then you might be an….___________(hint – not a redneck)!

None of which is relevant to the point she was making. I thought I knew a lot about Star Trek until my fellow contestants in a Trek trivia contest demonstrated otherwise. That doesn’t make their fandom any more sincere, or valid, than mine, yours, or those who prefer the Kurtzman-era shows.

I doubt many on this site will agree with me, but I think ‘Evil’ is the best show on this network.

Star Trek has been overall dismal except SNW and this last season of Picard, which hopefully is their new direction for Trek. I never watched Prodigy as I don’t have kids, and I’m not enough of a fan to sit through a kids/maybe not a kids animation show (but I did watch and enjoy Star Wars Rebels).
I’ll be amazed if they go through with the YA Star Trek show too.

Alex Kurtzman needs to go away, his instinct are terrible, and the ratings show it.

We don’t actually know that to be true.

So, basically the part you liked was the part that looked exactly like all the old Trek of your youth. Anything that even remotely resembled any Trek made after 2009 is garbage. Gotcha.

I for one don’t think there was any issue with who this show was for; it works well as a show in and of it myself, as well as an extension of over half a century of franchise lore. If it didn’t connect with you, that’s unfortunate, but it absolutely connected with others.

I get what you are saying but 6-year-old you in the 70s and a 6-year-old in 2023 are completely different. You cannot use that mentality. To be honest, most kids do not watch TV the way we used to. Saturday morning was special. Waking up and eating a bowl of cereal in front of the TV watching Scooby do and Shaggy run past the same background over and over. TAS was something I loved watching too… but if you look back now at the animation, it was mostly static images with the eyes or mouth moving. Kids these days do not care about learning. Kids these days are not interested in anything but games on their tablets. In my opinion, the entire look and feel of the show is more adult oriented. It’s a very serious toned show right from the start. To me, Lower Decks is more in the style of a kids show. That is the one a 9-year-old me would be watching.

Even if it’s greenlit tomorrow, Legacy can’t move forward right now because of the writers’ strike, whereas Prodigy‘s writers are under TAG (which isn’t striking) rather than WGA, and it could continue production while all live-action stuff is halted. And frankly, I for one would rather have more Prodigy than Legacy anyway.

This was just shortsighted cost-cutting, nothing more, and no one will benefit from it – not us viewers and fans, not the artists who make Prodigy, and ultimately not even the penny-wise, pound-foolish executives slashing and burning the things that give consumers a reason to subscribe in the first place.

You said, to the cookie, “Lol So here there is little to no Voyager cameos? “

Which suggests that you don’t know what “cameo” means, because…yeah, there aren’t many Voyager cameos. I’m not disputing that there’s a lot of Voyager content, I’m suggesting that you don’t know what the word cameo means. A main character is, by definition, not a cameo.

Like 75 other people have already told you this.

The show *is* about a bunch of kids having adventures on ship (and, in the process, learning of the tenets and ideas and ideals behind both the Federation and the Star Trek franchise itself). That it also contains other story elements doesn’t alter or detract from that.

I don’t think that’s the case here at all. The showrunners may be fans, but they’re also people with an extensive history in quality animation aimed at kids and families; they had years under their belts of knowing how to address their audience in a way that would neither talk down to them nor go over their heads, long before they were ever associated with Star Trek. The actual show itself ought to be proof enough of that, if a glance at their filmographies on IMDB didn’t already suffice.

Okay here is how you make Trek work.
You have it where the kids EXPLORE space. Maybe have some Strange New Worlds. Introduce some science. Have it where they face strange aliens and natural anomalies, learn from the aliens and natural anomalies, fight some bad aliens and natural anomalies, etc. I recommend lots and lots of action that the kids don’t even know they are learning what a gas giant is or a black hole because they love the cool communicators and phasers.
Have a starship with a bridge, put the commander in a spinning chair where he has to interact with a helmsman, a communications officer trained to interact with aliens, a science officer and an engineer. Show the starship is so big it has to be built in space with a space dock and they use shuttles to land.
Now to mix it up (because in a way this has been done before), maybe have it where the kids are aliens and find a Starship and a hologram tells them how it works, but keep it simple.
I think that part of Prodigy worked GREAT.
No nonsensical time travel, this isn’t Back To the Future and what’s fun has been done in Star Trek IV. No over complicated plots involving other adults.
DO have it where they run out of resources and have to improvise. DO have it where they face a conflict that they need to think outside the box. DON’T have third party adults come in to take command, show them what to do, etc. Let the kids figure it out.
There was kind of a show like this once upon a time called Star Trek TAS where the visually stunning bridge with all the info displays facing off with Klingon D-7s got a kid into Trek. At the very least, that worked for six year old me!

*Facepalm* we are talking Trek here. Is there anything about Trek that you DO like? Why are you even on here? All you do is slam everything. Go troll somewhere else.

The doors are horrid!!!!! Lol Its like watching a board meeting but at least I a boardroom even then you’ve got a projector and some windows because no one wants to stare at a person sitting in front of a door.

So are we agreed there is a lot of Voyager or now you are saying there is very little Voyager in it? And what ship replaced the Protostar? Who is their new commander, holo Janeway or actual Janeway?

Or instead of bad TV you can read A Brief History of Time by Stephen Hawking to discover just how anti science that BS is.
Also.., see above where everyone else (laughably) says there is only a cameo of VOY and no VOY applicability lol

You’re so fired up to rage on it that any reference to a prior character is “nostalgia.” It attracted children but also adult fans with good story and strong Trek vibes. You didn’t like it. Many others did. Paramount rolled the dice that they could make money off it without offending other fans. They lost my subscription and pissed off many others. More Trek will be canceled in the days and weeks ahead. Take it to the bank.

Low viewership has never been mentioned. If Apple was hard out for cash and knew the end was near, the first show they’d sell is Ted Lasso. The rumblings have been the streaming numbers for Prodigy were very respectable and it’s being put on the market because they feel it’s attractive.

No gymnastics required. And I’ll watch S5 too by the way, hoping they’ll forego the morality and how to think lessons.

You and I have vastly different views. That was by far my least favourite Trek movie. Even below Star Trek 5. I found it to be complete garbage with Abrams clearing not understanding Trek at all. I was not emotionally invested in the characters after a second movie, and some things did not make sense. Why would you even need a starship if you can beam from one planet to another instead? For me, I remember watching TOS when I was 5 years old on the old B&W TV we had in our kitchen. I have seen each iteration since. Some I liked more than others. Others I have rewatched and found a new appreciation for – such as Enterprise.

We are all entitled to our own opinions, and there is nothing wrong with that at all. And that is the beauty of Trek today – there is something for everyone! You cannot make everyone happy, but with so many different Trek shows out there now – you can choose your favourite and others can choose theirs.

Sorry but the plot of the show became far too involved with nostalgia and cannon. The show should’ve been about a bunch of kids having adventures on ship. That’s it. Even the hologram was a mistake. Kids never got interested and tuned out because it was a “grownup” show.

For me personally I think Trek works better when non fans make the show. Into Darkness is still my favorite Trek movie.

And yet it was cancelled due to low viewership.

No I didn’t. So funny the mental gymnastics the small minority of you guys do to point out your hate for Disco. The show that brought Star Trek back to television. It’s actually pretty sad. As for me I’ll be quite happy to watch the grand final season of a fantastic show that has changed Trek forever. All the other shows could be cancelled tomorrow and I wouldn’t give it a second thought.

The growing consensus is that Prodigy has value and with Season 2 nearly completed, Paramount hopes to cash in. If it had low viewership, they’d have stomped on Season 2 before they’d shelled out millions for it.

New and inventive ways to call kids unintelligent. Prodigy appealed to kids (I have one – loved it!) and also held the attention of adults by making it engaging and strong Trek. But by all means, let’s argue the show should be dumbed down as much as possible, or have no reference to anything that came before it. When you’re struggling for reasons to rage against something, sure, let’s argue that nostalgia and continuation is a bad thing.

Unless there’s numbers you can point to, the alternative is Prodigy was very popular, far less expensive than live action, sold DVDs very well, and was worth enough to make Paramount some coin on top of the tax break, versus a lowly rated show that no one would buy.

I rarely, if ever, post here. Every time I do, months and months apart, you’re complaining about the doors on the bridge being in the shot.

Do you not know what a cameo is?

I guess you never saw the Voyager 2 parter, “Year Of Hell” – explains how one change can affect everything in time travel. I suggest you watch it.

Lol So here there is little to no Voyager cameos? What??? There are even 2 Janeways, nothing says we’re going to focus on the adventure for kids like coming up with a real and a holo Janeway complete with taking the action away from the kids to follow that.
Then they blew up the Protostar for what; to go be on a Voyager.
Like who is this show for?!? They sold out kids who were bonding with the protostar for adults crying over seeing Janeway and then wondering why they don’t have a new audience.

The time travel makes no sense. Why doesn’t the bad guy just go back and fix his mistake? And then why doesn’t anyone go back and save everyone from world war 2 to wolf 359 onward?